tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34592362.post5784855168575014559..comments2024-01-13T07:04:29.167-05:00Comments on Kapp Notes: Advice to Teachers in Florida: Don't use Facebook with StudentsKarl Kapphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10586071112339563727noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34592362.post-4682164207348638342010-08-25T18:31:56.225-05:002010-08-25T18:31:56.225-05:00Mark Burke: I'd like to see the post/comment y...Mark Burke: I'd like to see the post/comment you mentioned? My life is spent trying to understand why teachers/trainers don't want to use technology even when it's in their own best interest. <br />Thanks,<br />JaneJane Bozarthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09179488095482056918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34592362.post-13039861440500133332010-08-24T14:28:30.212-05:002010-08-24T14:28:30.212-05:00A few random reactions:
From a teacher's pers...A few random reactions:<br /><br />From a teacher's perspective: there's an admittedly eeeewwww factor in being "friends" with the teacher. But hey, if a student invites me despite that, well--that's the highest praise they can give me. (In general, my feeling is that students need to ask me to be their friend on FB and LinkedIn; but if they do, I'll do it.)<br /><br />From a general cynical perspective: wait until there's a bullying situation on FB that are even 1/10 as serious as the ones that made the national news last year. Then teachers will be in trouble for failing to track it. <br /><br />From a cynical management perspective: it's nice to know that the school system so highly values the judgment skills of its teachers.Saul Carlinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01513103628489253928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34592362.post-76237504407065764282010-08-24T12:17:54.313-05:002010-08-24T12:17:54.313-05:00First of all, there is a world between corporate t...First of all, there is a world between corporate training and school. I regularly go for a drink with my co-workers but I don't think a teachers should hang out with his students.<br /><br />That being said, Facebook is a "friend" network and although it may be quite useful at the corporate level, I don't think it is appropriate for teachers to be "friend" with their students and share with them whatever they do outside the classroom and vice-versa.<br /><br />On the other hand, I can understand the value of social media to support education and this is where I think school should have their own closed social networking tools.<br /><br />So I totally understand the school position in that matter. There are legal issues when a teacher interacts with students, whether is is live or virtually.Guy Boulethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08024906671026902073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34592362.post-10949461907391405982010-08-24T08:47:23.036-05:002010-08-24T08:47:23.036-05:00The issue I think is not Facebook specifically but...The issue I think is not Facebook specifically but the concept of Social/professional networking. I'm in Florida too (different county same blocks). Perhaps the answer is professional development, using digital tools to enhance instruction and good old fashioned supervision and common sense.<br />http://gridjumper.wordpress.com/category/safety/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34592362.post-83789944267338629392010-08-24T07:03:09.752-05:002010-08-24T07:03:09.752-05:00As Jane mentioned, the great thing about Facebook ...As Jane mentioned, the great thing about Facebook is you can create groups or Fan pages and not have to allow students to "friend" you as an instructor. There are many creative ways of using Facebook without having to "get personnel" or even "friendly" check out Jane's new book (I am a reviewer)"Social Media for Trainers" which explains all that!!Karl Kapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10586071112339563727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34592362.post-37243789169028317002010-08-23T18:56:53.036-05:002010-08-23T18:56:53.036-05:00My district is actually trying to fire me simply b...My district is actually trying to fire me simply because I had students on my facebook.<br /><br />It's become ridiculous that we are all being punished for the sins of a sick few.<br /><br />My career may be over just because the country has decided to go on a witch hunt, where every teacher that has a facebook with a student on it is guilty.<br /><br />It's a scary time, and I'm getting out of teaching, because I'm not going to have a horrible life just because some people are uncomfortable with change.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05333197064456759819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34592362.post-70277359182293246572010-08-23T18:01:03.007-05:002010-08-23T18:01:03.007-05:00Karl - couldn't agree more. I've recently...Karl - couldn't agree more. I've recently run into a few "Facebook" haters. Each one felt so strongly about how Facebook is a violation of privacy. In each case, after explaining that Facebook only shares what we all want it to share, their tunes doesn't change. They still feel Facebook is an back alley in the scariest place on earth. So for sure, when we teach these tools, we have to teach the benefits by showing or I believe those who hate Facebook will continue to do so. <br /><br />I recently received a strong email in opposition to one of my posts on how I believe teachers should be required to use technology tools or risk loosing their jobs. I make no apologies...we need to teach using tools for tomorrow, not teach today using tools from yester-years. The response I received was from a past professor of mine who stated..."I don't have to use technology to be a top shelf teacher." Oh how wrong that is. That view is so teacher centric...ie...caring more about the teacher's skills than the real impact on kids. <br /><br />There are so many points to address including revamping teacher prep programs, teacher supervision, unions (I am sure fit in there somewhere, somehow), virtual schools etc. Maybe we should plan some future co-operating posts between our blogs?Mark T. Burkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05933396810122736504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34592362.post-60679209656321379852010-08-23T15:07:48.971-05:002010-08-23T15:07:48.971-05:00I am frustrated by people that feel facebook is al...I am frustrated by people that feel facebook is all or nothing: How about using facebook groups or fan pages to communicate with students? For me, that method allows my personal facebook wall to be just that - personal - and still allows me to communicate with students through a that's convenient for them.annbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07058440297328827557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34592362.post-35862795627670475882010-08-23T06:17:53.363-05:002010-08-23T06:17:53.363-05:00I like to compartmentalize my online activity. For...I like to compartmentalize my online activity. For me, Facebook is for friends and family. Twitter is for professional activity. I encourage students to use Twitter, email, or go to my blog (DrDougGreen.Com), but I do not want to see them when I go to Facebook. It would seem weird to me if I went to a friend's site on Facebook and had to wade through their relationships with their students. Also, I don't think my students have any business sorting through my friends and family relationships.Douglas Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12585254833466108022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34592362.post-17126231159891938042010-08-23T05:16:03.281-05:002010-08-23T05:16:03.281-05:00Hi, Karl. This one is especially maddening since t...Hi, Karl. This one is especially maddening since the people who made the rule obviously haven't spent much time on Facebook. Simply using lists to limit which of your friends sees what is one solution. Beyond that, using Facebook Groups or Fan Pages is a great way to support a course or provide activities without anyone sharing personal information. <i> You do not have to 'friend' your students, and they do not have to 'friend' you, in order to participate in groups and pages. </i> Thus,no one has to be given access to anyone else's information. Shame that the school chooses to keep the students (and teachers) from an easy, familiar, friendly place for collaborative learning. <br /><br />Heck, <i> I'd </i> teach the teachers to safely use Facebook for learning if the school would rethink its position.<br /><br />Best, <br />JaneJane Bozarthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09179488095482056918noreply@blogger.com